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You can search the Mac Dos Card forum now! Nothing has changed with my situation concerning my OrangePC card. I did post the rest of the software/drivers that I was given that includes the last version of OrangePC Easy Install (it's called misc). I'm also still working on the Orange Micro section, so please be patient...very patient =P

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The Apple PCI PC Compatibility Cards:

I've only worked with 12 inch Apple 166MHz Pentium PC Compatibility Cards, so keep that in mind when following tips or observations that I have made. The Mac Dos Card forum is a great place to post your questions if you can ignore the spam. Another FAQ worth mentioning is the FAQ for the PC Compatibility cards.

Where can I find PDF manuals and user guides?

What type of cards did Apple make?

What cards can I install in my Mac?

What OSs (operating systems) can I run on my card?

Where can I download the drivers and software?

I don't have the special monitor cable needed, now what?

Video Loopback Cable pinout/wiring list
By Don Bruder - email Don - August 28, 2003

This document is applicable to the Apple "12-inch PCI PC compatibility Card" ("PCCC" from here on out) and *POSSIBLY* one or more of the Orange Micro "OrangePC", "Orange386", and similar cards. It may also apply to the 7-inch PCI PC Compatibility Card from Apple, but this has not been verified. This document has been confirmed accurate for the Video Loopback Cable supplied by Apple Computer with the PCCC card, which is, according to some sources, electrically identical to the cables shipped by Orange Micro with their cards. However, this document and the information it contains HAVE NOT been verified against an actual cable shipped with an Orange Micro product, so you should be aware that any use of the information contained herein for those cards is strictly at your own risk, and may do all kinds of weird things, including (but not limited to) blowing up your computer, card, or both...

This document DOES NOT apply to the older "Apple DOS Compatibility Card" (AKA "Houdini" and "Houdini II") products. Those cards use a completely different, four-ended cable that is not compatible with the cable described by this document. Attempting to use any of this information with those cards is not only at your own risk, but downright stupid, since you've just been told that it won't work! Any consequences of such an attempt are strictly your own to deal with and/or repair.

A big "THANK YOU!" to "Mike", whose post to the DOS Support For Macintosh forum, titled "Pinouts", supplied information vital to the creation of this document. The article "Mike" wrote is located at:

Special thanks also go out to Oliver Schubert for his assistance in verifying this document's accuracy against a real cable. For a self-proclaimed rookie at electronics, it seems to me that you did just fine, Oli!

All trade names, brands, marks and indicia are the property of their respective owners. Use of these names, brands, etc. in this document is solely for purposes of identification, and implies neither endorsement nor condemnation of the named product or company by the author and/or contributors, nor approval of the author's/contributors' efforts/results by the owner(s) of the names, brands, or marks mentioned.

And now, on with our show...
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    Mon = Monitor socket on cable. Identified as "The short cable" in the PCCC installation docs. A female DB-15 connector.

    PCCC = "PC Compatibility Card" video port plug. Identified as "The middle connector" in the PCCC installation docs. A male High-density (three row) 26 pin connector.

    Mac = Mac video port plug on cable. Identified as "The long cable" in the PCCC installation docs. A male DB-15 connector.

    PCCI = Pacific Custom Cable, Inc. - At the time of this writing, their website was at http://www.pacificcable.com. No, I'm not affiliated with them, except as an occasional customer with no complaints so far. Their part numbers are cited in this document because they were the first outfit I could locate who had all the connectors needed by someone wanting to "homebrew" one of these cables.

    "In" = Into PCCC from standard Mac video port
    "Out" = Out from PCCC to monitor socket
    "In/Out" = Passthrough - Mac to PCCC to Monitor, and vice-versa. Only applies to the three Monitor Sense pins.

Mon ("short") end: DB-15 Female (PCCI part number D15FS or equivalent). Gets connected to monitor cable.
PCCC Destination
pin 1 pin 24 red ground
pin 2 pin 25 red signal
pin 3 pin 18 composite sync
pin 4 pin 5 sense zero
pin 5 pin 16 green signal
pin 6 pin 15 green ground
pin 7 pin 14 sense one
pin 8 N/C no connection
pin 9 pin 7 blue signal
pin 10 pin 23 sense two
pin 11 pin 17 composite and vertical sync ground
pin 12 pin 26 verticle sync
pin 13 pin 6 blue ground
pin 14 pin 8 horizontal sync ground
pin 15 pin 9 horitontal sync
PCCC ("middle") connector: High Density (three row) D-sub 26-pin male (PCCI part number HD26MS or equivalent). Gets connected to the video port on the PCCC.
pin 1 Mac pin 15 horizontal sync in
pin 2 Mac pin 11 c & v sync ground in
pin 3 Mac pin 9 blue signal in
pin 4 Mac pin 13 blue ground in
pin 5 Mac pin 4, mon pin 4 sense zero in/out
pin 6 Mac pin 13 blue ground out
pin 7 Mac pin 9 blue signal out
pin 8 Mac pin 14 h sync ground out
pin 9 Mac pin 15 h sync out
pin 10 Mac pin 3 c sync in
pin 11 Mac pin 11 c & v sync ground in
pin 12 Mac pin 5 green signal in
pin 13 Mac pin 6 green ground in
pin 14 Mac pin 7, mon pin 7 sense one in/out
pin 15 mon pin 6 green ground out
pin 16 mon pin 5 green signal out
pin 17 mon pin 11 c & v sync ground out
pin 18 mon pin 3 c sync out
pin 19 Mac pin 12 v sync in
pin 20 Mac pin 2 red signal in
pin 21 Mac pin 1 red ground in
pin 22 Mac pin 14 cable detect in
pin 23 Mac pin 10, mon pin 10 sense two in/out
pin 24 mon pin 1 red ground out
pin 25 mon pin 2 red signal out
pin 26 mon pin 12 v sync out
Mac ("long") end: DB-15 Male (PCCI part number D15MS or equivalent). Gets plugged into the Mac's normal video port.
PCCC Destination
pin 1 pin 21 red ground
pin 2 pin 20 red signal
pin 3 pin 10 composite sync
pin 4 pin 5 sense zero
pin 5 pin 12 green signal
pin 6 pin 13 green ground
pin 7 pin 14 sense one
pin 8 n/c no connection
pin 9 pin 3 blue signal
pin 10 pin 23 sense two
pin 11 pin 11 composite and vertical sync ground
pin 12 pin 19 verticle sync
pin 13 pin 4 blue ground
pin 14 pin 22 horizontal sync ground
pin 15 pin 1 horizontal sync

Can I upgrade the RAM on the card?

What type of RAM should I use?

Can I upgrade the processor on my card?

What is a container?

Can I use a DOS formatted HD instead of containers?

Can I use Softwindows or SoftPC containers with my card?

I'm ready to install my card. What do I do?

Here are some key combinations that you need to know while in the PC environment:

My card is installed, now what?

How do I network the Mac and PC side at the same time?

A PC Compatibility Card (Pentium version) can be installed into both a Power Mac 7600 and a Power Mac 8500 and successfully networked and run on both the Mac side and the Windows 95 side. Here is what to do:

PC Setup 2.1.7f

Just a few reasons for not installing PC Setup 2.1.7f:

Download the PDF manual and read ALL of it before attempting to install PC Setup 2.1.7f:

It's always a good idea to make a copy of your container before and after you install anything in your PC environment. So now would be a good time to make a copy of your container. Especially since you could lose everything you've just done if you install it incorrectly. From here, you're on your own, because I could never successfully install it (we just don't get along for some reason)...but below is some general information from their web site, including the software and license code ^_^


Authorization Code and License Information:
During the installation, you will be prompted to enter an authorization code and licensing information. Enter the following information:

Below is the small FAQ they had on their web site in it's entirety:

What should I do to shut down the PC side?

What should I do when my DOS Compatible Mac (should be card?) freezes in Windows?

My computer often freezes when I start the DOS/Windows side of my Mac. What could be causing this?

When I try to enter Windows, it brings up the splash screen, then exits back to the prompt.

How do I eject diskettes and CDs in Windows?

Do I need to do anything special to install software?

What allocation of memory do you recommend?

Is there any way to have the Internet software working on both sides without rebooting the computer?

How do I create a new drive container? (What if my existing drive container is too small?)

How do I set up a modem for use on the DOS side?

Is there a way to run AppleShare in Windows?

How does Windows 95 or 98 work on the Macintosh/DOS Compatible machines?

How do I know what version of Win95 is running on my PC?

Is my computer a PCI or a NuBus machine?

The Orange Micro PC Cards

Coming later...

While you're waiting, here's some software for you to download and see if you can use. I haven't been able to do anything with my OrangePC card yet, so you're on your own for the moment: